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Allegation: I gaslighted Y after our relationship ended
There is no evidence of gaslighting in any of my communication with Y. LLM analysis found
four instances of potential dismissive contradiction or minimization. In my opinion,
these four instances do not show substantive evidence of this. All four conversations
have been faithfully reproduced so that you can form your own independent
interpretation. I have shared one further conversation with Y, in which I give
her advice, and which would appear inconsistent with her allegation that I gaslighted her.
A Possible Explanation
I do not believe that any of my communications with Y came close to gaslighting.
However, I disagreed with her on some matters.
Instead, the accusation that I gaslighted
her appears to me to be a convenient way to explain why she remained friends with
me—an incontrovertible fact, evident from our extensive communication for six months after our relationship—despite
her claim that the days we spent together in Berlin were “horrifying”. If she
had gone through a “horrifying” experience, it would be difficult to explain her
subsequent interactions with me. But she reconciles this apparent
inconsistency with the claim of gaslighting: that—if taken literally—I had successfully
convinced her of a different reality.
I maintained friendship with him for a few months after May, because I was gaslighted and convinced that it was all consensual and I didn’t want to “make a big scene” like he accused me of. Y, My experience with sexual harassment in the Scala community
Regret and Resolution
I ended my relationship with Y because I knew that it had no chance of becoming a
long-term success. I saw several “red flags” relating to Y’s character during
the time we stayed together in Berlin, and it became clear to me that I no longer
wanted a relationship with her.
I never explained my reasons to Y, except to tell her that I did not think we
could have a successful long-term relationship. I was sure that she would not be happy to
hear the reasons, and that they might upset her. There was nothing she
could have done to change my mind, and I did not want her to try to “negotiate”
on the basis of my reasons.
I could elaborate here, but it would be unnecessary and unkind
to share them. However, I can categorically say that
my reasons had nothing to do with our intimacy, and nothing to do with any other
person.
I felt a sense of shame about having made a conscious decision to enter into the
relationship with Y. It had been my choice as much as it had been hers, and I
could have stopped myself. I had thought—for a long time—about the significance of
the age difference between us, and I suspected that it might represent too great
a gap in maturity and experience; and despite this I had carried on. I knew this
was a mistake I should have avoided.
I’m not the first person to make the same choice between conflicting signals from
my brain and my heart, and I won’t be the last. But I was embarrassed that I didn’t
foresee the likely outcome.
Having realised my mistake and regretted my mistake, I resolved to do my best to
rectify my mistake by supporting her, guiding her, advising her and helping her in
any way she wanted. This also included tolerating her at times when I thought she was unfair.
I knew that I had made Y unhappy. But there was no better way to remedy my own
guilt about the relationship than to remedy her anguish. I believed that the
best way to do this was with actions rather than words. I was never motivated
to gaslight, manipulate or deceive Y in any way. Far from it: I wanted her to
get over me and get on with her life.
Gaslighting
Y refers to gaslighting five times in her statement. The definition of
gaslighting is the manipulation of someone into questioning their perception
of reality.
I was heavily gaslighted to invalidate my memories. The stories he presented were always very different from what I remembered. Y, My experience with sexual harassment in the Scala community
This definition, from psychology, refers to a particularly insidious kind of
manipulation that’s a conscious action on the part of the manipulator, with the
intent to cause the victim to doubt their perception of reality. I did not
gaslight Y by this definition.
But Y may not have fully understood the meaning of gaslighting when she wrote
it, and may have intended to use the word in one of its weaker senses:
dismissive contradiction, actively rejecting something she believed to be
true; or minimization, making her feel like her
concerns were exaggerated, invalid, or that she was overreacting.
I did disagree with Y on a number of occasions. And I did try to persuade her that
she did not need to worry about some of the things she was worried about. But I
gave her my advice in good faith.
Instead of trying to demonstrate things I didn’t say to Y, I will first share
something I did say. I feel that it better reflects the kindness I showed her
after our relationship, and shows the inconsistency with her allegation that I
gaslighted her.
14 May 2018 First intimacy, in Berlin
17 May 2018 I end the relationship
23 May 2018 - 19 November 2018 7206 messages exchanged
23 May 2018 I leave Berlin
27 May 2018 Possible gaslighting incident 1
29 May 2018 Possible gaslighting incident 2
9 June 2018 Y and I talk in Lisbon
20 June 2018 Y and I talk in New York
23 June 2018 Possible gaslighting incident 3
5 August 2018 Possible gaslighting incident 4
18 September 2018 Y and I talk in Seattle
17 August 2018 Conversation about decision-making
19 November 2018 Y asks me not to talk to her again
Scope
After I ended our relationship, we spent the remaining few days together in
Berlin. After this, we continued to exchange messages and speak on the phone. We
exchanged 7206 messages in the period from 23 May 2018 until 19 November 2018, when
Y asked me to stop communicating with her.
Following our relationship, over the next six months, Y and I met again at LX Scala in
Lisbon, Scala Days in New York, LambdaDays in Seattle and Scale by the Bay in
San Francisco. At all except the last of these, Y and I talked privately, deeply and at length. On
each occasion we talked at her request. Y cried during the conversations in New York and Seattle. We only spoke only briefly in San Francisco. I gave
my time to listen to her, and I felt this was the appropriate thing to do after she had
expressed that she wanted to talk.
It is during this period of six months that any gaslighting would have
happened. Besides the face-to-face conversations in Lisbon, New York and
Seattle—the content of which I have no concrete record—our entire communication
was conducted on Facebook Messenger.
A Conversation
On 16 August 2018, Y told me she was “confused and exhausted” and was finding it
hard to make a decision about whether to take a job in Seattle or San Francisco.
This is one of the last times I gave Y advice.
For fluency, some typographical errors were corrected in the following quoted conversations. Frequently,
these errors were corrected in follow-up messages. In these cases, the follow-up message has been deleted.
These corrections have only been applied where the correction had no impact whatsoever on the interpretation
of the messages.
What are you confused and exhausted about?
16 Aug 2018, 23:34 20268
J
Are you still confused and exhausted?
17 Aug 2018, 09:58 20269
J
yeah : (
17 Aug 2018, 22:43 20270
Y
What's wrong?
17 Aug 2018, 22:47 20271
J
Are you avoiding making decisions?
17 Aug 2018, 22:47 20272
J
I just feel like every decision I make it’s going to be wrong because I can never fully see what the future will be and therefore can’t predict what effect the decision has on my future
17 Aug 2018, 23:49 20273
Y
That sounds like the perfect explanation as to why it can't be wrong, at least not "certifiably wrong".
17 Aug 2018, 23:50 20274
J
Why are you fearing these scenarios? Do you think there's only one possible path in life that you'll enjoy?
17 Aug 2018, 23:51 20275
J
There are many, all different, and they'll all give you different experiences.
17 Aug 2018, 23:51 20276
J
No single one of those will be uniquely best amongst the possibilities.
17 Aug 2018, 23:52 20277
J
And when you choose one, you lose all the others. But that's just life.
17 Aug 2018, 23:52 20278
J
You've lost all the others, but at least this means that you'll never be able to take one of those alternative lives and compare it to the one you chose, and say for certain that you made the wrong decision.
17 Aug 2018, 23:53 20279
J
I think you need to lose the idea that there's only one single correct choice.
17 Aug 2018, 23:55 20280
J
There is also no reason why you need to commit to a decision, or to create more choices for yourself, further down the road.
17 Aug 2018, 23:56 20281
J
So I think you can reduce the pressure on yourself to "make the right decision" by remembering that the right decision is not even a thing.
17 Aug 2018, 23:59 20282
J
It’s not about right or wrong
18 Aug 2018, 00:07 20283
Y
There is no 100% right or wrong
18 Aug 2018, 00:08 20284
Y
But it’s possible that I enjoy a path more than another
18 Aug 2018, 00:08 20285
Y
I just don’t know if I’ll enjoy a path or not if I choose it. Mainly because I can’t foresee what will happen
18 Aug 2018, 00:08 20286
Y
You haven't understood me, then...
18 Aug 2018, 00:10 20287
J
You can wonder about it for as long as you like right now, and you can wonder about it for as long as you like when you've made the decision, but you have no way at all of knowing if the decision was right or wrong, and no way relating the decision you made to the outcome you experience. You can't even regret it, because you won't know what the alternative would have been.
18 Aug 2018, 00:13 20288
J
You can't regret making a decision that turns out [not] to work out ok if you simply didn't have the information which could have told you in advance it wouldn't have worked out ok.
18 Aug 2018, 00:15 20289
J
All you can do is choose the best thing you can with the information you know, and at every opportunity make the best decision you can to try to make things best for you.
18 Aug 2018, 00:16 20291
J
There's no need to put pressure on yourself to try to know the unknowable.
18 Aug 2018, 00:17 20292
J
Things may happen which turn out lucky, or badly. But you just have to take what life throws at you.
18 Aug 2018, 00:18 20293
J
I have to go now
18 Aug 2018, 00:29 20294
Y
I’ll read it later
18 Aug 2018, 00:29 20295
Y
All you can do is choose the best thing you can with the information you know, and at every opportunity make the best decision you can to try to make things best for you.
18 Aug 2018, 01:17 20296
Y
You sounded like my parents.
18 Aug 2018, 01:17 20297
Y
(I know it’s a weird thing to say...)
18 Aug 2018, 01:17 20298
Y
I just feel like I’m giving up an alternative life when I make a decision
18 Aug 2018, 01:17 20299
Y
I’m risk reverse and hate to deal with uncertainty
18 Aug 2018, 01:18 20300
Y
If I like Seattle but the work and offer in San Francisco is better. Should I choose a job for place or work
18 Aug 2018, 01:20 20301
Y
Do I sound very very negative recently? I think it’s because I’m exhausted from work and traveling
18 Aug 2018, 04:07 20302
Y
Sorry I haven't replied yet. I will.
18 Aug 2018, 23:33 20303
J
Sorry it has taken me such a long time to reply. I've been very busy (and I sort of still am, but anyway...) I think that in life, we make decisions all the time, and most of them don't change our lives in ways we can detect. Even little decisions almost certainly change our lives in little ways we don't know about, and by the "butterfly effect", potentially every choice we make about anything could be life-changing. We we can never scientifically test the theory because we can never try both variations from identical initial conditions and compare the results... so it's hypothesis.
But the sorts of decisions you get worried about seem to be the ones where you think that a future version of you will be able to relate a consequence back to an original decision, and regret it. I think you're worried about that. But I think the sorts of decisions are exceptional amongst the many others which seem insignificant. Yet every single one of them potentially throws away an alternative that you'll never get to experience. Maybe a hundred or a thousand alternative futures you miss out on every day...
And it's not worth getting uptight about them. We just have to accept that we only have one path, and we get to choose it, but we only get one choice. We can't get sad about every alternative reality we will never get to experience because we lose sight of the one we've chosen, then.
I think the way to think about it is this, though: make the best choice you can at the time. If you do that, then there's nothing you can regret about the decision. Also, don't fear a less optimal choice. If one would give one outcome 9.9/10 and another 9.8/10, then the 9.8/10 option is not something to fear. Maybe you could have been closer to perfect, but it's too late to change it, the outcome wasn't bad at all, and it's not something to regret.
Finally, I would suggest that you set yourself up in advance to enjoy every outcome. Think about the enjoyment you would get out of more than one possibility. Don't commit early on to just a single path to happiness. Instead try to be the person that is able to enjoy any of a number of possible outcomes.
Seeing as you don't worry about the decisions which you don't think will affect your future, you shouldn't worry so much about the ones which you think will. There are always many which seem insignificant at the time which end up being critical on shaping your future anyway, if you look back in hindsight. I [hope] this helps in some way.
1 Sep 2018, 20:57 20304
J
[You waved at Y!]
4 Sep 2018, 16:27 20306
J
Have you started ignoring me?
6 Sep 2018, 06:46 20307
J
Note that my longer, final message was sent nearly two weeks later, and may have
arrived too late to help Y make her decision. I had been too busy to write it
immediately, but I did not forget. Y did not ever reply to my message, and we
next spoke on 16 September 2018. She told me that she didn’t appreciate the
message because it was too late.
Possible Gaslighting Incidents
I asked ChatGPT 5 to try to find evidence of behavior which could have been described
as “gaslighting”, taking a liberal interpretation of the word. It found four
possible occurrences over the six months, on 27 and 29 May, 23 June and 5 August 2018.
27 May 2018
On 27 May 2018, I tease Y about being “emotional”. I believe that this was in
keeping with the tone of our conversation. But she could have interpreted my
use of humor as dismissing her legitimate concerns.
Are you so bored
27 May 2018, 16:34 14056
Y
of me
27 May 2018, 16:35 14057
Y
Why do you say that? :)
27 May 2018, 16:35 14058
J
Because you're
27 May 2018, 16:36 14059
Y
Because the response latency has never been this high
27 May 2018, 16:38 14060
Y
Oh, I'm talking to my family. :)
27 May 2018, 16:38 14061
J
Because I'm emotional and over interpreting everything
27 May 2018, 16:39 14062
Y
Ohhhh!
27 May 2018, 16:39 14063
J
Sorry ;)
27 May 2018, 16:39 14064
J
Who says sorry with a wink
27 May 2018, 16:39 14065
Y
I hate you
27 May 2018, 16:39 14066
Y
Does it help if I say, "don't be emotional"?
27 May 2018, 16:39 14067
J
I hate you too.
27 May 2018, 16:39 14068
J
Not really! ;)
27 May 2018, 16:39 14069
J
I'm just teasing you.
27 May 2018, 16:39 14070
J
Are you getting mixed and confusing signals?
27 May 2018, 16:40 14071
J
(Normal y says: ignore what the crazy one says right now. She will be ok in 2 or 3 days
27 May 2018, 16:40 14072
Y
So this isn't "normal Y"?
27 May 2018, 16:40 14073
J
This is "extreme Y"?
27 May 2018, 16:40 14074
J
"exceptional Y"?
27 May 2018, 16:40 14075
J
This is crazily emotional y
27 May 2018, 16:40 14076
Y
👹
27 May 2018, 16:41 14077
Y
😾
27 May 2018, 16:41 14078
Y
😑
27 May 2018, 16:41 14079
Y
Do you have anything important to do today?
27 May 2018, 16:41 14080
J
I know you're bored
27 May 2018, 16:41 14081
Y
Ha!
27 May 2018, 16:41 14082
Y
I'm not bored!
27 May 2018, 16:41 14083
J
You're telling me go do something important
27 May 2018, 16:41 14084
Y
Don't waste your time
27 May 2018, 16:42 14085
Y
29 May 2018
Two days later, during a conversation on 29 May 2018, Y said that she feels that our conversations and
my humor have “dried up” and that I had ignored her.
Why has it became to dry to have conversations with you. It wasn't like this before...
29 May 2018, 10:57 14354
Y
Did you shave your humor and everything else with your beard
29 May 2018, 10:58 14355
Y
Has it? :'(
29 May 2018, 10:58 14356
J
I'm still enjoying talking to you...
29 May 2018, 10:59 14358
J
Really
29 May 2018, 10:59 14359
Y
Yeah, I wouldn't have initiated the conversation, otherwise!
29 May 2018, 10:59 14360
J
It has since I told you I had my period...
29 May 2018, 11:00 14361
Y
There are two reasonable explanations
29 May 2018, 11:01 14362
Y
Do you think your perception has changed?
29 May 2018, 11:01 14363
J
One I'm insane because of my hormones
29 May 2018, 11:01 14364
Y
Uh-huh.
29 May 2018, 11:01 14365
J
Let's not say "insane", shall we?
29 May 2018, 11:01 14366
J
(One has been, in most of the cases, proven right from history)
29 May 2018, 11:02 14367
Y
Why not
29 May 2018, 11:02 14368
Y
What's wrong with that word
29 May 2018, 11:02 14369
Y
What perception has changed
29 May 2018, 11:02 14370
Y
Because I think it's a bit sexist to say that a woman "goes insane" just because her hormones are busy.
29 May 2018, 11:03 14371
J
I don't represent all women right now
29 May 2018, 11:04 14372
Y
But maybe your perception of small details is more acute than usual.
29 May 2018, 11:04 14373
J
I do get affected A LOT by my hormones
29 May 2018, 11:04 14374
Y
And it's emotionally exhausting
29 May 2018, 11:04 14375
Y
More acute than usual!
29 May 2018, 11:05 14376
Y
So my perceptions are more accurate?
29 May 2018, 11:05 14377
Y
No, more exaggerated.
29 May 2018, 11:05 14378
J
Oh
29 May 2018, 11:05 14379
Y
Ok
29 May 2018, 11:05 14380
Y
Very exaggerated
29 May 2018, 11:06 14381
Y
Like if I joke about ignoring you until you say "stop", it doesn't mean anything. It's just a joke.
29 May 2018, 11:06 14382
J
But you didn't joke
29 May 2018, 11:06 14383
Y
Didn't I?
29 May 2018, 11:07 14384
J
You did ignore me
29 May 2018, 11:07 14385
Y
Which is totally fine
29 May 2018, 11:07 14386
Y
I reply sarcastically by saying “uh-huh”, challenge her choice of words, then suggest her perception is
”exaggerated”. This may not have been most helpful for her at that time, and there are ways in which
I could have been more understanding.
Shortly afterwards, Y explained that she was concerned that her visa to travel to
Portugal for LX Scala would not be granted. I offered to help by sending an
email to the organizers.
Here is the email I sent.
Email from me to LX Scala organizers asking for help with Y's visa
I felt that it was more important to demonstrate good intent with actions rather
than my words, which I kept lighthearted.
23 June 2018
On 23 June 2018, following our meeting in New York, I jokingly cast doubt on the consistency of
Y’s feelings.
Hey, did you get back ok?
23 Jun 2018, 22:49 16718
J
Sorry I didn't answer your question.
23 Jun 2018, 22:49 16719
J
I read it while I was busy, then forgot about it. I think when I was getting on or off the plane...
23 Jun 2018, 22:49 16720
J
I did
23 Jun 2018, 22:55 16721
Y
It's ok
23 Jun 2018, 22:55 16722
Y
Oh hey!
23 Jun 2018, 22:55 16723
J
Do you mind that I didn't get to say goodbye properly?
23 Jun 2018, 22:55 16724
J
No not really
23 Jun 2018, 22:55 16725
Y
Why not???!
23 Jun 2018, 22:56 16726
J
:D
23 Jun 2018, 22:56 16727
J
I don't have any expectations anymore. I'm not upset or disappointed
23 Jun 2018, 22:57 16728
Y
Do you think your feelings change from time to time?
23 Jun 2018, 22:57 16729
J
You were quite upset when we went to Central Park.
23 Jun 2018, 22:57 16730
J
I'm not saying you should be upset or not upset.
23 Jun 2018, 22:58 16731
J
But you should know yourself that your feelings change from time to time.
23 Jun 2018, 22:58 16732
J
I'm not heartless though. I'm just learning to control them and trying to not waste time on being upset
23 Jun 2018, 22:59 16733
Y
That's probably good.
23 Jun 2018, 22:59 16734
J
You might end up like me if you get too good at it, though.
23 Jun 2018, 22:59 16735
J
I will never be like you
23 Jun 2018, 22:59 16736
Y
I never show emotions, so nobody knows how I am.
23 Jun 2018, 22:59 16737
J
What would you do if you woke up one morning and discovered you were like me?
23 Jun 2018, 23:00 16738
J
It would be terrible, right?
23 Jun 2018, 23:00 16740
J
You do know yourself
23 Jun 2018, 23:01 16741
Y
And I really don't know you
23 Jun 2018, 23:01 16742
Y
Are you saying that you thought you knew me, and discovered that you didn't?
23 Jun 2018, 23:01 16743
J
👍
23 Jun 2018, 23:01 16744
Y
Remember I told you I have my ways of saying goodbye. You didn't trust that would help. But it works for me.
23 Jun 2018, 23:09 16745
Y
Again, I tried to make light of the situation, but it probably did not help.
5 August 2018
On 5 August 2018, Y and I had a long conversation in which she wanted me to talk
about my ex-girlfriend, V.
I felt that Y’s questioning turned sinister when she asked if I had thought
about my ex-girlfriend when we (Y and I) had been having sex. I started to try
to deter her from this line of questioning. My answer was “no”, but her
questioning made me clearly irritated, and I accused her of framing unfair
questions.
(Note that during the conversation, Y makes some unrelated comments about
software—Bloop, Kaleidoscope and Make—which I ignore, and are included for completeness.)
Did you think about her when we had sex
5 Aug 2018, 13:41 19480
Y
Your questions suggest that you're framing this as a number of simple facts, which it's not.
5 Aug 2018, 13:42 19481
J
I thought about her because I was in Berlin, and the last time I had been there had been with her.
5 Aug 2018, 13:42 19482
J
I still think about her most days, for one reason or another.
5 Aug 2018, 13:43 19483
J
So you did
5 Aug 2018, 13:43 19484
Y
Yes, but I thought about over 100 people that week.
5 Aug 2018, 13:43 19485
J
Did you partially imagine me as her during sex
5 Aug 2018, 13:43 19486
Y
That's why I don't like these sorts of questions.
5 Aug 2018, 13:44 19487
J
No, I'm pretty sure I didn't do that.
5 Aug 2018, 13:44 19488
J
But all sorts of things go through my mind every day.
5 Aug 2018, 13:44 19489
J
Because the answer doesn’t speak well for you?
5 Aug 2018, 13:44 19490
Y
I’m not familiar with bloop
5 Aug 2018, 13:44 19492
Y
I got a weird error
5 Aug 2018, 13:45 19493
Y
And I couldn’t find much about it online
5 Aug 2018, 13:45 19494
Y
Got the error when I ran ‘make’
5 Aug 2018, 13:45 19495
Y
In kaleidoscope
5 Aug 2018, 13:45 19496
Y
Come on, that's not fair. It's easy to find an answer you don't like when you frame a question in a way which is more or less guaranteed to produce a particular answer.
5 Aug 2018, 13:46 19497
J
And I don’t remember whats the error message right now
5 Aug 2018, 13:46 19498
Y
I didn’t frame the question
5 Aug 2018, 13:46 19499
Y
It’s very straightforward
5 Aug 2018, 13:46 19500
Y
It’s either a yes or a no
5 Aug 2018, 13:46 19501
Y
I’m not even asking for an opinion
5 Aug 2018, 13:47 19502
Y
You're still doing it. You're making it a "yes/no" question, and calling it straightforward. You're removing all the context.
5 Aug 2018, 13:47 19503
J
It’s a fact-based question
5 Aug 2018, 13:47 19504
Y
What context
5 Aug 2018, 13:47 19505
Y
The context is that I probably thought of a hundred people or more at various points when I was with you in Berlin.
5 Aug 2018, 13:48 19506
J
But I put a context
5 Aug 2018, 13:48 19507
Y
The context is that I think about various ex-girlfriends most days.
5 Aug 2018, 13:48 19508
J
Which is when we were having sex
5 Aug 2018, 13:48 19509
Y
But think about the question.
5 Aug 2018, 13:48 19510
J
And my question was more specific than just think
5 Aug 2018, 13:48 19511
Y
It was did you IMAGINE me as her
5 Aug 2018, 13:49 19512
Y
Your first question wasn't fair, though.
5 Aug 2018, 13:49 19513
J
Then I asked in a different way
5 Aug 2018, 13:49 19514
Y
And you are still commenting on the first question
5 Aug 2018, 13:49 19515
Y
If you pretend it's a straightforward question with a yes/no answer, then the answer "yes" is *identical* if I think about her for a split second, or if I thought about her consistently for the whole time.
5 Aug 2018, 13:50 19516
J
I am, but the second question is not much better.
5 Aug 2018, 13:50 19517
J
The answer is "no", though.
5 Aug 2018, 13:50 19518
J
I have to go now
5 Aug 2018, 13:51 19519
Y
I’ll ask the bloop question later
5 Aug 2018, 13:51 19520
Y
Ok.
5 Aug 2018, 13:51 19521
J
Keep talking to me, though.
5 Aug 2018, 13:51 19522
J
Later, I mean.
5 Aug 2018, 13:51 19523
J
Why
5 Aug 2018, 13:51 19524
Y
Don't stop because I'm getting annoyed at things like the way you ask questions.
5 Aug 2018, 13:51 19525
J
Are you lonely
5 Aug 2018, 13:51 19526
Y
Hahhaa
5 Aug 2018, 13:51 19527
Y
You are
5 Aug 2018, 13:52 19528
Y
I don't want it to be an indication that I don't want to talk to you.
5 Aug 2018, 13:52 19529
J
I’m pretty impressed that I could make you annoyed
5 Aug 2018, 13:52 19530
Y
When can I make you surprised
5 Aug 2018, 13:52 19531
Y
I'm not particularly annoyed.
5 Aug 2018, 13:53 19532
J
I'm not sure.
5 Aug 2018, 13:53 19533
J
I have to go, too.
5 Aug 2018, 13:53 19534
J
And perhaps I am lonely, in an unconventional way. But it's not the reason I don't want you to stop talking to me.
5 Aug 2018, 13:55 19535
J
Most of my questions were asked because I’m curious
5 Aug 2018, 14:08 19536
Y
I certainly didn’t have any intention to upset you or embarrass you or make you look like a bad guy
5 Aug 2018, 14:08 19537
Y
It was just me wanting to figure out what guys are thinking
5 Aug 2018, 14:09 19538
Y
I’m collecting data
5 Aug 2018, 14:09 19539
Y
So that hopefully I can learn from the past
5 Aug 2018, 14:09 19540
Y
And be able to make right decisions for myself in the future
5 Aug 2018, 14:09 19541
Y
So question
5 Aug 2018, 14:10 19542
Y
What’s the reason
5 Aug 2018, 14:10 19543
Y
Question 2
5 Aug 2018, 14:10 19544
Y
Why do I need to always initiate the conversation
5 Aug 2018, 14:10 19545
Y
Sorry, will reply in a bit...
5 Aug 2018, 14:35 19546
J
Several hours later, I replied to her two questions:
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What is the reason I don’t want to stop talking to Y?
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Why does Y always have to initiate conversations with me?
I hope it went well today. I've seen you put a lot of hard work into it. Well done. :)
6 Aug 2018, 00:24 19549
J
1) I don't want you to stop talking to me because you're interesting and smart, and valuable to the community I care about. I think you can become successful in this field. I also think that I have a lot I can share with you.
6 Aug 2018, 00:29 19550
J
2) You don't need to. Maybe I initiate fewer conversations than you, particularly with the technical questions you've asked me recently, but I have initiated several conversations too. It's not like I'm only ever replying. For example, when I said "Hi" last night.
6 Aug 2018, 00:31 19551
J
Y did not respond to these answers. In my next message, about 14 hours later, I sent
her a photo of Lake Como, to which she reacted with the “smiling face with
heart-eyes” emoji.
He mentioned that he didn’t want me to stop talking to him because he thought that I “can become successful and valuable in this field” and that he had a lot to offer. I felt threatened mentally and physically. Y, My experience with sexual harassment in the Scala community
In her publication, Y described that, after my first answer, she felt “threatened
mentally and physically”. However my message was sincere. It was taken out of context,
and by giving it new context, was insinuated to mean something different.
During my conversations with Y after our relationship, I believe that I treated her with respect and
kindness, while maintaining the same friendly joking tone we had always used with each other.
There are times when I could have responded better. But it was never my intention to manipulate
or undermine her.
Clarifications
21 August 2025 The email relating to Y’s visa application, dated 29 May, was
incorrectly placed in the section dated 27 May. This has now been corrected.
My Request
If you signed the Open Letter in 2021 because you found Y’s publication
compelling, please reconsider her words in light of the evidence above.
Her post was hugely damaging to me. The complete absence of due
process meant that none of her claims were ever verified with me
before they were published.
If, like many others, you feel like justice may not have been rightly served,
you can make a meaningful step towards helping me get my life back by removing
your name. I am grateful for your consideration.
❧
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